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 Post subject: Innala Precon Upgrade help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-04 3:11 am 

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Hi everyone! I'm new to the CEDH format and just bought the innala precon deck. So i Want to upgrade it with my collection (battle of zendikar only) and had made a list of potential replacement. Can you give me some opinions? That would be realy nice for an edh noob :)

Bane of Bala Ged
Blight Herder
Breaker of Armies
Titan's Presence
Adverse Conditions
Drowner of Hope
retreat to Coralhelm
Spell Shrivel
Windrider Patrol
Transgress the Mind
Serpentine Spike
Pilgrim eyes
Blighted Cataract
Blighted Fen
Blighted Gorge
Mortuary Mire
Sanctum of Ugin
Skyline Cascade
Conduit of Ruin
Desolation Twin
Scour from Existence
Complete Disregard
Drana, Liberator of Malakir
Grip of Desolation
Vampiric Rites
Zulaport Cutthroat
Brutal Expulsion
Hedron Archive
Sunken Hollow
Smoldering Marsh


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 Post subject: Re: I need some help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-04 10:27 am 
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Before anyone helps, it would make it far easier if you were to tag your cards. It should look like this: Black Lotus.

You can do it one of three ways.

1. Highlight the card name, then click the "card" button above the post area.

2. Type the card name, then put the word "card" in brackets ( [] ) in front of it, then put the word "/card" in brackets behind it.

3. Type up all your cards and post them to this website, which I'd save as a bookmark.

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 Post subject: Re: I need some help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-04 10:39 am 
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First, this probably belongs in Strategy or Deck Lists, so maybe a mod can move it.

Second, Kong has the right of it. Card tags are pretty important, especially when asking for help. Another option, if you are familiar with spreadsheets, is to use a formula to tag for you. EG:
=concatenate("[card}",$A2,[/card})
put that formula (with "]" replacing "}") in cell B2 and copy down the column; then you can copy/paste card lists into column A and it will auto-card the list (copy from Column B to paste in to the forum). The $A2 reference should auto-update the row as you paste down the column. Formula obviously based in Excel.

Third, We need to know a bit more about you (are you also new to MtG, play-style, preferences, play-group meta) and your goals for the deck changes (Control, counter, mid-level agro, combo, etc.), as your goals will shape our suggestions.

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 Post subject: Re: I need some help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-04 1:59 pm 

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Here you go :)


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 Post subject: Re: I need some help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-04 10:41 pm 
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While I'm still messing around with this precon myself, out of the cards you've listed I would probably only seek to find a space for Sunken Hollow, Smoldering Marsh, and Vampiric Rites. Maybe Grip of Desolation.

Really none of the Eldrazi stuff is going to be too good here, since Inalla focuses on Wizards. A lot of the listed spells are also sub par. But making the mana base better and giving yourself more card draw--especially card draw that fits into Inalla's battle plan of making tokens--are solid choices.

Although lies in the assumption that you are sticking with Inalla as your commander.

And finally, CEDH means Competitive EDH. I dont think you are seeking that.

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 Post subject: Re: I need some help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-04 11:44 pm 

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Yes i mean Casual edh not Competitive. Sorry ^^

So Brutal Expulsion and Hedron Archive would not be a good inclusion?

I thought i could use Desolation Twin as a finisher, as i could play it from the graveyard with haste^^

i'm looking to upgrade the deck to give him some more win condition/wizard synergy.

Already added
Deadeye Navigator
Supreme Inquisitor
Docent of Perfection
Panharmonicon
Master of Waves(i could not find wanderwine prohophet^^)
Ashnod's altar
Sigil Tracer


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 Post subject: Re: I need some help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-05 12:19 am 
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Brutal Expulsion is really only good for bouncing spells, but for your deck there's not really a lot of good uses for that. And if you want to bounce permanents, then there are cheaper options (In terms of mana). Hedron Archive is okay, but in a three color deck I'd want more colored mana. If you want to use it to draw cards, you are in literally the best colors for that--there's better options. And if you want to give the deck better finishers, Desolation Twin doesn't do much. Yeah, you'll get two 10/10 creatures, but they have no abilities and no real synergy with the rest of the deck. If that's all you have for now, then that's fine, but you'll want something better when you have the opportunity to update the deck.

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 Post subject: Re: I need some help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-05 1:25 am 

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Thank you Segrus, indeed for brutal expulsion i wanted to put it in without actual reason^^

So what kind of (not that expensive) finisher would you recommand?


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 Post subject: Re: Innala Precon Upgrade help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-05 3:03 am 
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Lumix1640 wrote:
So what kind of (not that expensive) finisher would you recommend?

Yeah...still working that out myself. I was hoping to figure out if I could just out-value my opponents with enter-the-battlefield effects, but I haven't tested the deck out enough to be able to tell for certain. So I'll have to get back to you on that one unfortunately.

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 Post subject: Re: Innala Precon Upgrade help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-05 11:50 am 
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Here's the additions I'm going with for now:


I'm still working on changes, but these were just first glance additions from my collection. Memory Plunder, Clone Legion, Comet Storm, Mairsil, the Pretender, and Taigam, Sidisi's Hand all look like possible cards I'll remove in the future, as I intend to continue taking advantage of Inalla's ability rather than theirs. I think getting a few more instants and/or sorceries into the deck will be key, but those three are ones whose cost aren't great for their effect. I don't recall what I already took out.

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 Post subject: Re: Innala Precon Upgrade help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-05 8:02 pm 

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Those are nice addition

I was searching for some untap card from the merflok tribe, to inifinite combo with innalla "tap wizard/deal damage" ability and it look good atm :D

Also Dramatic Reversal and Paradox Engine


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 Post subject: Re: Innala Precon Upgrade help please :)
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Lumix1640 wrote:
Those are nice addition

I was searching for some untap card from the merflok tribe, to inifinite combo with innalla "tap wizard/deal damage" ability and it look good atm :D

Also Dramatic Reversal and Paradox Engine


If you control an Isochron Sceptre with a Dramatic Reversal imprinted on it and any non-land permanent (or mix of non-land permanents) that makes 2 colourless, you can untap your Merfolks like infinite monkeys armed with typewriters aiming for Shakespear.

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 Post subject: Re: Innala Precon Upgrade help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-06 7:09 am 

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Nice :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: Innala Precon Upgrade help please :)
AgePosted: 2017-Sep-06 7:55 am 
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zimagic wrote:
you can untap your Merfolks like infinite monkeys armed with typewriters aiming for Shakespear.

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